an excellent presentation of secular archeology supporting jerusalem's destruction in 607 b.c.e:.
http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111101.pdf.
when was ancient jerusalem destroyed?.
Unfortunate for her Alleymom, Maze will not believe what was received by an "apostate" and then posted on an "apostate website".
She's a sick puppy. Her logic, copy and paste logic, is bonkers. Kudos to you for trying to help her, but it seems hopeless.
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an excellent presentation of secular archeology supporting jerusalem's destruction in 607 b.c.e:.
http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111101.pdf.
when was ancient jerusalem destroyed?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/announcements/211966/1/My-Last-Thread
At the above thread Maze said, "My interest in posting here has deadened lately. This will likely be my last thread. Initially I participated here because I was interested in sharpening my perception against opposing points of view. Jehovah really doesn't recommend the use of channels such as this for such purposes."
So Maze,
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my interest in posting here has deadened lately.
this will likely be my last thread.
initially i participated here because i was interested in sharpening my perception against opposing points of view.
out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!
on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.
"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.
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a re-posting of cedar's hi-jacked thread.... cedars:.
i just thought i'd share something if you don't mind.. my conviction in the legitimacy of the society was slowy eroded over a number of years simply by reading the publications and becoming increasingly frustrated at how little the interpretations of prophecy and scripture made sense, added to the complete ineptitude of senior figures in the organisation.. for me, the "glue" that kept everything roughly held together into something that can be called a "faith" was the concept of "increasing light", which as you all know is the principle employed by the society to excuse any mistakes or backtracks that are made.
they routinely flog proverbs 4:18, which as we all know has nothing to do with gradual refinements in understanding when read in context.
Oh yes, and I forgot to say thank you Ziddina for reposting this subject.
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a re-posting of cedar's hi-jacked thread.... cedars:.
i just thought i'd share something if you don't mind.. my conviction in the legitimacy of the society was slowy eroded over a number of years simply by reading the publications and becoming increasingly frustrated at how little the interpretations of prophecy and scripture made sense, added to the complete ineptitude of senior figures in the organisation.. for me, the "glue" that kept everything roughly held together into something that can be called a "faith" was the concept of "increasing light", which as you all know is the principle employed by the society to excuse any mistakes or backtracks that are made.
they routinely flog proverbs 4:18, which as we all know has nothing to do with gradual refinements in understanding when read in context.
I have actually used a version of the question in the OP but have not had much success.
Why? Well, despite people saying that it was a good question, or that they never really thought about it, they are not in the least bit ready to think independently. I've received replies such as, "Despite that, I still believe the FDS is doing an excellent job, IMO."
How can you possibly reason with that?
Again, going back to an abused woman scenario. You tell her to leave him as well as the reasons why. She says she never thought about it "that way" but still blames herself for provoking him and at the same time even praises what a hard worker and good provider he is.
You can't reason with that.
A person has to be ready to wipe the crust off and allow the critical eye to open. Our efforts are but an eyedrop on that crusty eye. It may penetrate, but the person still has to make the effort to open their eye and see what's the reality. (Sorry for the crazy analogy. LOL)
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The thread below could be of help. I posted what worked for me there when using an iPhone, but it could work for the iPad also.
It will help to read the 1st page as well as part of the 2nd.
It describes what LWT is showing in his picture.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/tech-support/206152/1/Using-JWN-on-a-smartphone
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i know this post will bring out all those who love to criticise and rebut.
the following information is timely and very plausible.
in view of recent posts and special announcements to be taking place in the organization i found the following to have credibility.
All 4 will be on Rick's show. Stay tuned.
CoC
i know this post will bring out all those who love to criticise and rebut.
the following information is timely and very plausible.
in view of recent posts and special announcements to be taking place in the organization i found the following to have credibility.
it has been over a month and a half since i have even been on the board, and that really only to ask about gps units (got a tom-tom) and mention the new job.
way too busy with life - post jw now 4 years.. of course, the new job has benefits, health insurance, etc.
(including unlimited use of the company car for personal use and the company pays for the unlimited gas for about a $25/week out of my check -- huge benefit) and this has enabled toni and i to finally after a two year engagement, to get married.
